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Gwen Shamblins Weigh Down Workshops
&
the Docrine of the Trinity
Beginning in 1957 with the publication of "Pray Your
Weight Away," by Charlie W. Shedd, and then with the writings
of Marie Griffith, a Princeton professor and author of several books,
the Christian weight-loss industry emerged having tremendous
influence in the lives of many people concerned about weight and
diet. Since then, a number of Christian diet books have hit the
marketplace teaching that overeating is a sin or that fat is not so
much a biological or psychological problem as it is a symptom of
spiritual hunger.
One of the most popular weight-loss programs available is The
Weigh Down Workshop (presented in all fifty states, Canada, and
Europe) founded by Gwen Shamblin, a registered dietitian who lives in
Nashville, Tennessee with her husband and two children. Shamblin
holds a master's degree in food and nutrition, was employed as
a full-time faculty member at the University of Memphis for five
years, and worked as a nutritionist for the state health department.
She has focused her consulting practice in the area of weight control
since 1980. After struggling off and on for some time with obesity,
Gwen discovered that her relationship with food could be transferred
to a relationship or heart for God and that physical fitness and
healthy eating habits are related to spiritual fitness.
While The Weigh Down Workshops have produced credible results,
some are questioning Shamblin's "philosophy of diet"
and even more severely, her theological views, especially her
understanding of the Trinity, her extreme view of lordship, a mixing
of works and grace, and a "restoration of New Testament
Christianity" mentality that relegates other beliefs as
apostate.
The controversy generated by these problems has resulted in having
Shamblin removed from Christianity Today's "Women of
Faith" Web site, a number of evangelical churches around the
country have dropped her program, some 35 employees have left her
organization, and Thomas Nelson Publishers have canceled publication
of her new book, Out of Egypt.
The purpose of this study is not to question the motives nor
judge the heart of Gwen Shamblin. She has stated unequivocally that
she has a passion for "helping people understand how God can
change their hearts so that they can be delivered from the slavery of
yielding to the world and its life-draining temptations".
We believe that she is sincere and motivated for the right reasons.
However, one may be earnestly sincere and have the right motives yet
be aberrant or perhaps even heretical with regards to biblical
doctrine. Such seems to be the case with Gwen Shamblin. Before we
delve into the aforementioned problems, we freely admit it would be
outside the scope of this study to speak authoritatively regarding
the particulars of proper nutrition and the body. We will,
therefore, defer our comments regarding Shamblin's nutritional
views to others and focus on biblical passages used in support of her
theological views.
Gwen Shamblin's Use of Scripture
Most of Gwen Shamblin's theological views are found in her
book(s),
Student Guides,
and tapes. However, she has also developed an attractive web site
which includes various materials including a "General Overview
of Seminars," "Frequently Asked Questions" (FAQ) –
which includes a "Mission Statement" - and, more
recently, due to a barrage of negative responses regarding her view
of the Trinity, she has published a position paper on the subject
entitled "Statement Regarding the Trinity."
Mrs. Shamblin has stated no less than five times in her Mission
Statement that her mission is 1) "...to call
God's people back to full devotion and to examine themselves to
make sure that they are not self-employed inside His Kingdom;"
2) "This ministry is driven by the fact that over the
centuries, sin has continued to increase inside the church- a church
that was intended to be a pure virgin or a holy priesthood (2 Cor.
11:2-4, 1 Peter 2:5);" 3) "The purpose of this ministry
and those involved is to help warn the sheep and the shepherds of
God's coming wrath;" 4) This ministry is trying to
re-establish the plumbline of Jesus Christ, the cross, and holiness
as a true foundation for a relationship with God..."; and,
5) "In summary, our mission is to establish and fight for more
kingdom territory in the hearts of men for our Great king, so that
His will will (her emphasis) be done on earth as it is in
Heaven." Certainly she can't be faulted for these
God-honoring objectives. Nor should she be faulted for calling the
Church to holiness and the lordship of Christ.
Having said the above, it appears her zeal to reform the Church,
has skewed her reading of Scripture on a number of points. For
example, she cites 2 Corinthians 11: 2-4 above to support the
contention that the Church is intended to be a pure virgin, yet the
context of this passage is unrelated to sin in the Church or for that
matter, personal sin. The context of 2 Corinthians 11 speaks to the
Apostle Paul's concern for the Corinthian's devotion to
Christ, engaged to Him as Lord and Savior, against the threat of
those who would attempt to deceive and turn them away from their
relationship with Him. And so Paul speaks of his presenting the
Corinthian believers to Christ as a "chaste virgin."
As others have pointed out, Shamblin conveniently utilizes
biblical passages having nothing to do with diet to spiritualize the
use of food and pulls passages out of context that do pertain to
food.
Suffice it to say, many other passages could be cited to demonstrate
her interpretation of the Bible where diet and nutrition is
concerned, is unwarranted. While the Bible makes use of food imagery
to illustrate a spiritual truth, it certainly is not a contemporary
diet manual, as Shamblin would have us believe!
Unfortunately, the further one reads the more evident the scripture
twisting becomes. And while Shamblin's misapplication of
Scripture is indicative of a lack of basic hermeneutical skills
(rules of biblical interpretation), of even greater concern are her
doctrinal deviations.
Doctrinal Deviations
While Gwen Shamblin speaks of salvation through the sacrifice of
Jesus Christ, she leaves the impression throughout her writings that
one must (emphasis mine) do the will of God to be saved. This
usually translates to mean unless one is committed to the Lordship of
Christ, unwavering and in proper relationship with Him, one cannot be
saved. Moreover, according to one writer, some women who have gone
through the Weigh Down program were told by Shamblin that they
weren't saved when they were overweight.
This same article reports that Carney Hawkins (former Director of
Counseling for Weigh Down) and others had strained relationships with
Gwen over her interpretation of God's grace.
Perhaps Gwen Shamblin's view of salvation has been greatly
influenced by her Church of Christ background which explains her
mixing of works and grace.
Soon after publishing her "Mission Statement,"
Shamblin was barraged by correspondence from cult apologists,
biblical scholars, and numerous other Christians who were doing
virtual cartwheels over her view of the Trinity.
It caused so much controversy that she was forced to make clear (or
in her view, defend) her doctrine of God. As mentioned above, she did
so by publishing her "Statement Regarding the Teaching of the
Trinity." Unfortunately, her statement only served to stir the
controversy even more.
It is not within the scope of this paper to present a full-on
treatise of the doctrine of the Trinity. Scores of theological books
have been published detailing the historic orthodox biblical view.
We will therefore examine Shamblin's statement on the Trinity
and then offer an overview of the doctrine as it revealed in
Scripture and developed in early Church history.
We begin with the words of Gwen Shamblin herself when she states:
"I believe that the Bible is infallible, and its description of
God as the Father, Jesus Christ as the Son of God, and the Holy
Spirit as the Spirit of God can be understood even when read by a
child." At first glance, these words seem quite innocuous.
However, as the reader will later see, this statement is a prelude to
a very distorted or misunderstood view of the doctrine of the
Trinity. Shambling goes on: "My statements have brought up
questions such as 'Do you believe in the Trinity?'
"People have asked me and my staff to answer this with 'yes'
or 'no.' This is not a 'yes' or 'no'
question, because we do not know if the inquirer is asking if we
believe in the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit; if this is the case,
then the answer of course is 'YES'!"...
"However, the inquirer may be asking if we believe in every
word of the man-made teaching of the Trinitarian Creeds that were
formed over 300 years past Christ and has been debated every since by
many well-known theologians. I will make clear statements regarding
this, using scriptures to support them."
The above statements reveal Shamblin's mindset. One the
one hand she affirms the doctrine of the Trinity (as she understands
it), while on the other, she denies the doctrine as defined by the
early creeds and confessions. Perhaps she is somewhat confused in
that the creeds and confessions of the Church (from early to latter
Christianity) serve to affirm the basic teaching of the Trinity! And
while the creeds and confessions are human and not divinely inspired,
from all indication they neither distort nor deny apostolic teaching
but, in fact, clarify essential biblical doctrine!
It seems, therefore, that Shamblin's position that pits
Scripture against creeds is not a sound one to say the least.
What, then, is Shamblin's view of the Trinity? In order to
answer this, we again go to her "Statement Regarding the
Teaching of the Trinity" where she states: "There is no
reference in the Bible to the word 'Trinity,' and the
only reason that I tell you this is simply because many people are
not aware that this is not a Biblical term."
While most Christians would concede this point (though qualified),
the following confusing and at times heretical statements (directly
from Shamblin's above "Statement") should cause
concern for those who believe essential biblical doctrine must not be
compromised:
"...the people confronting us are disagreeing with one
another! Some believe that the Trinity teaches that God and Jesus
are the same being, so that when you get to heaven, you will only see
one being, not both Jesus and God, while some other Trinitarians are
teaching that there are separate beings. So let's be careful
about jumping to conclusions that someone discussing the Trinity is
heretical or is not a Christian. The Bible is far too clear on what
'heresy' is. Heresy is someone who does not believe that
Jesus is the Son of God."
"I believe that I do understand the words of God on this
subject matter. From what we have seen in the e-mails and calls
coming to our office, it seems that the Trinity tradition can create
mysteries and misunderstandings about God and Jesus Christ."
"Others are calling me a cult because Jehovah's
Witnesses teach that Jesus is the Son of God and that He is not the
Father. In other words, one small portion of their teachings must
parallel one small portion of my teaching, but I assure you that
there are no other comparisons."
"The Churches of Christ denomination do not teach members
about the Trinity and have removed the word 'Trinity'
from the song books- but this does not make them a cult."
"They have done this by understanding the true picture of
Jesus Christ- that He 'would not consider equality with God
something to be grasped, but humbled Himself to death, even the death
of the cross' (Phil. 2)"
"My experience has been that some of the Trinity teachings
confuse some people on how we are to live like Jesus if Jesus and God
are the same being. The Bible teaches us that the Son doesn't
even know the day or the hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the
Son, but only the Father...(Mark 13:32)...How could the
same 'being' keep a secret from part of the Godhead if
indeed there is one Head and not two separate beings? Because of the
questions that these scriptures raise, I feel that it is proper for
Christians to examine human traditions."
IS
JESUS GOD?
"The Answer: I believe that Jesus and God are two separate
beings. I believe that Jesus is our Lord (referenced hundreds of
times) and our God (referenced approximately three times), but I
believe that the God of Jesus is God the Father. Jesus is not God
the Father."
"All citations in the Bible to God's Holy Spirit
reference the word 'Spirit.' Therefore I believe that a
child reading the Bible would easily understand what God is trying to
get across to us- that God is the Father, Jesus is the Son of God,
and God's Spirit is the spirit of God. God, Jesus, and the
Holy Spirit are one in purpose, and yet, where Jesus' will does
not line up with the Father's through sweatdrops of blood,
Jesus submitted and said, 'Not my will, but yours be done'
(Luke 22:42), indicating there are two separate beings."
"There is one God, and God the King has given His Son,
Jesus Christ, all authority over heaven and earth; so if our God says
to worship and bow down to His Son as well as Himself, we had best do
it!"
"Just because God, through His inspired Word, called Jesus
His Son, it does not negate Jesus' royalty, deity, position,
power, authority- it does not make Him inferior. The approximately
four references of the Jesus as 'God' does not force one
to believe that Jesus not the 'Son of God' because again
Jesus IS royalty and ALL authority has been given to Him by the
Father and every knee will bow to ;our great God and Savior, Jesus
Christ' (2 Peter 1:1). Therefore Jesus is my Lord, my Savior,
and my God."
"With so many references listed, why does a man-made
reaching want to make the Father and His only Son one being? This is
twisted, and we should rethink this man-made tradition."
"The Bible does not use the words- 'Jesus is a
created being.' Therefore, I will not add these words.
However, Jesus is described over and over as the Son of God, begotten
by God, from God, sent from God, firstborn, etc. Therefore, I
believe- Jesus is from God and He is His Son!...I believe that
God is the Source of all and that the Son 'was firstborn over
all creation.' (Col. 1:15). They are one in purpose and all
power and glory has been GIVEN to the Son."
DO
YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS EQUAL IN POWER AND GLORY?
"The answer: No. 'The head of Christ is God' (1
Cor. 11:3)."
"...and He [Jesus] was made our Lord and Savior by the
Father, no scripture says that Jesus is the Father- but every
scripture says that He is the Son of God and the Messiah (Christ)."
"...Jesus himself says that God the Father is His God-
but no where does it say that Jesus is head of God or has given God
anything."
"How could someone state that Jesus and God are equal in
all things when Jesus Himself refers to God as 'His God.'
God never refers to Jesus as 'His God.' I am afraid
that most people are more familiar with catechisms than they are
teaching a scriptural line of authority- not polytheism."
"Why would you not want to question a document made up by
man that is claiming that Jesus is equal, when He Himself said that
he did not consider equality with God something to be grasped (Phil
2:5-11)? Jesus stated that the Father was 'greater than I'
(John 14:28), and when someone referred to Jesus as 'good
teacher,' Jesus said, 'No one is good- except God alone
(Luke 18:18)."
" This is an easy teaching: you bow down to the Father and
His Son, to God and His Son- both being deity, but Jesus clearly
under the authority of His Father. When Jesus is at the right hand
side of God, why would someone want to endorse a teaching that says
that Jesus is 'equal in glory'? If they were equal in
glory, why does the Bible tell us over and over that we will see
Jesus sitting at the right hand side of God? Why doesn't the
Bible just say that Jesus and God would be sitting on two co-equal
thrones?"
"Half of the Trinitarians say that they will bow down to
both Jesus and God when they get to heaven, and the other half
believes that there will be only one being- but they can never tell
me which one will be missing: Jesus or God."
DO
YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS EQUAL IN SUBSTANCE?
"The answer: It depends upon what you mean by
'substance.' This picture of God as one being but
transforming himself into three forms like water, ice, and steam, is
confusing at best. If you want to argue that Jesus is equal in
substance, what are you referring to? That He is deity? But of
COURSE He is deity- He is the Son of God, and He has been given all
authority over heaven and earth by the Father!"
"I do not believe that the Spirit of God is a Spirit, and
that references to the Spirit of Christ refer to His Spirit. I do
not believe that references to the Spirit of Christ mean there is a
fourth person. I do not refer to God as a person."
"People who teach the Trinity argue that Jesus and God are
one because they are trying to justify the teaching in the Trinity
that says, 'these three are one God.' They also use the
one and only passage that I can find that might remotely back up
their teaching. John 1:1-2 says...However, this means that Jesus is
deity- He is not the Father- for verse 2 says, 'He was with God
in the beginning.' And then verse 13 says 'born of God.'
Please do not take these verses out of context."
"Teachers of the Trinity teach that Jesus is Jehovah; they
have no scriptures to back this up, and why don't they believe
that Jesus is the Son of God and that Jehovah is Jehovah?"
"The Bible teaches us that Jesus is the firstborn over all
creation (Colossians 1:15). This is the authority line: God- then
Jesus the firstborn- then God through the Son made all of creation."
"We know what a son is- why do we want to make Jesus the
Father and not the Son- I will never know. Jesus never taught
anything that wasn't from the Father."
"I have talked to several defenders of the Trinity
recently, and they cannot answer this one question clearly for me..."
"Here are some other questions that stump people teaching
the Trinity..."
" We cannot argue that Jesus was only submissive when He
was on earth- for Jesus is the same yesterday and today and forever
(Hebrews 13:8)."
"Please tell me why someone would want to insist that Jesus
and the Father are the same exact being when God Himself says that
Jesus is His Son, and Jesus Himself states that the Father is
greater, and the whole New Testament demonstrates how Jesus was under
God's authority."
"The Bible clearly teaches that when Jesus' will did
not match God's, Jesus submitted by saying, 'Not my will
but yours be done.'"
"God did not send Himself to death, but rather His Son."
"People who hold rigidly to the man-made Trinitarian
doctrine say that the picture of God and Jesus and the Spirit is a
mystery, that one is three and three is one, but there are no
scripture references to back that up in the NIV."
"So again, no matter how you see or picture God the Father,
Jesus His Son, and the Holy Spirit, the essential thing is to bow
down in reverent submission to each."
Sorting it All Out
Based on the above quotes, it seems rather obvious that there is
an awful lot of confusion on the part of Gwen Shamblin regarding the
doctrine of the Trinity. And while she denies teaching the doctrines
of the Jehovah's Witnesses, her statements and core arguments
against the Trinity are essentially identical to those of the
Jehovah's Witnesses.
This, again, should cause concern for those following her teaching.
As we have already seen, she does not seem to understand basic
biblical principles of interpretation that, unfortunately, has lead
her to faulty conclusions and misapplication of scripture on a number
of points. It goes without saying, denial of the biblical doctrine
of the Trinity will, in effect, undermine other foundational
doctrines of historic biblical Christianity as well! Conversely, a
denial of the biblical doctrines of the Incarnation, Substitutionary
Atonement, or the Bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ will do the
same!
We should therefore, be very careful in how we articulate (and in
particular, teach) God's Word (James 3:1)!
In one sense, we cannot fault Shamblin for her desire to protect
the unity of God nor her wanting to worship and give glory to Him
alone! This is monotheism at its core and has been the central
feature of Judaism, Islam, and Christianity for many centuries.
Having said that, what Shamblin fails to grasp is of these religions
(including Jehovah's Witnesses, Unitarians, and others),
Christianity, alone, affirms both monotheism
and Trinitarianism
without fear of contradiction. In other words, these are not
mutually exclusive terms as she would lead us to believe. All
Bible-believing Christians desire, as does Shamblin, to worship God
as the one true and living God and to give Him glory as He alone
deserves. But in doing so, we need not compromise God's
revelation of Himself in Scripture simply because we don't
fully comprehend His nature nor agree with those in church history
who helped in the development of Trinitarian doctrine.
The truth of the matter is, if God has in fact revealed Himself in
Trinitarian terms, then we must accept His self-disclosure, not
reject it because it is too difficult to understand!
Having said the above, let's look briefly at a few of
Shamblin's other arguments and determine whether they are in
fact biblically sound. First, she correctly states the word
"Trinity" doesn't appear anywhere in the Bible. As
mentioned earlier, most Christians concur- she is correct on the
point. However, let's be clear, while it may be said that
"...Scripture does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity,
it [certainly] bears witness to a God who demands to be understood in
a Trinitarian manner."
Even a cursory study of the Bible reveals the Trinitarian nature of
God. It stands to reason if the Bible reveals there is only
one God (Deut. 4:35; 39; 32:39; 2 Sam. 22:32; Isa. 37:20;
43:10; 44:6-8; 45:5,14; 46:9; Rom. 3:30; 16:27; 1 Cor. 8:4; Gal.
3:20; Eph. 4:6; 1 Tim. 1:17; James 2:19; Jude v.25); and this
one God is identified as God the Father (John 17:3; 1 Cor.
8:6; 2 Cor. 1:3; Eph. 1:3; 1 Pet. 1:3; Col. 1:2-3); God the Son
(Isa. 9:6; John 1:1; 1:18; 5:17; 8:58; 10:30; 20:28; Acts 20:28; Rom.
9:5; Phil. 2:6; Titus 2:13; Col. 2:9; Heb. 1:8; 2 Pet. 1:1; 1 John
5:20); and, God the Holy Spirit (Gen.
1:2; John 14:16-17; 26; 15:26-27; 16:7-15; Acts 5:3-4; 13:2,; 28:25;
Rom. 8:11; Eph. 4:30), these three are the one God!
The reader will please note while each member of the Godhead is
identified as God, they are identified as distinct Persons.
Therefore, Jesus is not the Father (as Shamblin accuses Trinitarians
of believing), nor is He the Holy Spirit; the Father is not the Son
or Holy Spirit; and neither is the Holy Spirit the Father or the Son.
Misidentifying the Persons of the Trinity has resulted in numerous
heresies both in the early church and in the many pseudo-Christian
cults of our day!
Second, throughout her statement on the Trinity, Shamblin argues
that Jesus couldn't be equal with God in that He (Jesus) is a.)
the "firstborn" over all creation; b.) refers to the
Father as "His God;" c.) He does not know the "day
or hour;" d.) His Father is "greater" than He; and,
e.) He did not consider "equality with God something to be
grasped." The obvious implication, say's Shamblin, is
Jesus' inequality and thus inferior status to the Father.
However, even a first-year seminary student understands first, the
context of these references must be examined in light of the
whole of Scripture, and second, in view of Jesus'
incarnation and voluntary subjection to the Father's will.
The Bible teaches Jesus had two natures, human and divine. He was
both God and Man and therefore exercised both his human will and his
divine will. Being fully human Jesus could say His Father is
"greater" than he- positionally, God the Father was
greater, by comparison, than the "son of man." Being
fully God, Jesus could say "I and the Father are one"
(referring to His essential deity). As a man, Jesus subjected
himself to the will of God yet on a number of occasions he exercising
his divine prerogatives as God.
As far as Jesus being "firstborn over all creation,"
most commentaries or word studies indicate the word "firstborn"
refers to "preeminence" or "source," not to a
literal, physical or spiritual birth. Jesus is called "firstborn"
in that he is preeminent over all creation simply because he is the
Creator of all and first to rise from the dead, immortal ((John 1:3;
Col. 1:16,17,18; 1 Cor. 15: 20-23). It would seem had Shamblin
thoroughly examined these texts (and others) she would not make the
assertions that she does. Unfortunately, most of her theological
aberrations stem from her faulty exegesis of Scripture.
Third, in addressing the question of Christ's true nature,
Shamblin on the one hand affirms his deity in that he is called God's
Son, "possessing royalty, deity, position, power, and
authority" yet, on the other, denies that he is Jehovah. Of
course by referring to Jesus as "Jehovah" does not equate
to calling him "the Father" as Shamblin wrongly assumes.
By this we are simply ascribing to Jesus Christ, by virtue that he is
God, incarnate, the "name" by which God, alone, is
known.
Moreover, contrary to Shamblin's view of Jesus' true
identity, the New Testament, on several occasions, identifies Jesus
as Jehovah!
While Shamblin affirms Christ's deity, it appears deity,
by her definition, means Jesus "became" God's Son
by birth with all the rights and privileges thereof whereas, deity,
according to classical definition, means something quite different!
Again, she mistakenly equates economic or functional
subordination
of the Son to the Father, with ontological
inequality. With this confusion in mind, it's no wonder
Shamblin may address Jesus as "...my Lord, my Savior, and
my God," and yet state "I believe Jesus and God are two
separate beings. I believe that Jesus is our Lord and our God, but I
believe that the God of Jesus is God the Father." This can
only make sense, as we've stated before, with the Incarnation
in view. One writer sums it up well: "The Father is Jesus'
God by an act of grace, by virtue of Jesus becoming a man for the
sake of redeeming man; the Father is our God by an act of creation,
by virtue of his having brought us into existence."
Conclusion
There's no doubt Gwen Shamblin has helped a lot of people
lose weight through her Weigh Down workshops. She has given people
hope and positive goals to achieve for themselves. Moreover, she has
brought attention to sin and corruption in the Church and the need
for believers to display obedience to the Lordship of Christ. For
these things she ought to be commended. Unfortunately, the good that
she does is overshadowed by her faulty exegesis of Scripture and her
confusing and sometimes heretical views of basic Christian doctrine.
Of special concern is her denial of the biblical doctrine of the
Trinity. And while we concede no one can fully comprehend this
teaching, to deny it on the grounds that she does is inexcusable- the
evidence from Scripture, itself, provides amply reason for affirming
it!
It's one thing to be so confused and simply unable to
reasonably explain the doctrine of the Trinity, and quite another to
deny it outright! By her own admission, Shamblin rejects the
doctrine as articulated by tradition, and by its clear teaching in
Scripture. Like it or not, her arguments against the Trinity
directly parallel those anti-Trinitarian cults such as the Jehovah's
Witnesses and the Christadelphians (to name a couple) and should
therefore, be rejected.
Sadly, Shamblin's Weigh Down program with its Statement of
Faith (at least in its present form), is a great example of how far a
self-proclaimed evangelical organization may go without real
theological oversight by qualified leadership. Concerned Christians
need to pray for Gwen Shamblin and those who follow her teachings.
Perhaps if she is teachable and open for correction through solid
biblical counsel, she will, by God's grace, come back to the
central truths of Scripture! Until then, we would not recommend
participating in the Weigh Down Workshops nor lend financial support
to her organization.
Rev.
Dan R. Schlesinger
President,
Institute for Biblical Apologetics, Inc.,
Adjunct
Professor, San Jose Christian College
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